In the CBC article, ‘EU president takes shot at Trump's “unacceptable”
tweets after Trudeau meeting’, the original tweets made by President Trump
become entwined in news articles with stories of the chants of “Send her back”
by his supporters at a Trump rally a day or so later.
At the same time as accusations were being made against
Trump, Donald Tusk - President of the European Council, after meeting with Trudeau
in Montreal, himself tweeted about being glad not to be met with a’ Send him
back’ chant by his audience.
These are just incidents aside from the main one, the tweets
sent out by Trump on July 14 which some took to be racist, and others only “unacceptable”.
But why his tweets should be considered to be something more
than unacceptable, in terms of being racist, or him being racist, is unclear. The
idea of freedom of speech was mentioned by some commenters in the Comments
Section of the CBC news article online. No one had a clear idea, it seems, of
what the tweets actually consisted of, only that, for many commenters, they
were racist.
Eventually, I posted the contents of the tweets by Donald
Trump in a comment, and lo and behold, they were not put under moderation soon
to be disabled.
Nowhere, however, are the actaul remarks made by these 4
black women in Donald Trump’s Congress, on the Conservative side, available.
And no article I have read on this or seen on tv news programs, mentions what
it was that Trump was responding to, what sorts of troubles the female “squad”
was probing into, and were questioning, that led to such words from Trump.
I wanted to know what brought this on, because I have been
involved in my own situation where at least some non-white doctors who must
have been from foreign cultures, had caused me trouble at a local hospital,
dragging me into a situation that never should have happened, whereby I was tested
for something I never had, and then tested again, in a way I know foreigners
coming here as refugees and immigrants are never tested, unless obviously ill. Speaking
as I did against these doctors – some of them – got comments I made deleted, as
though I had no credibility and could not possibly be telling the truth. And although
I took my complaint - part of it – to the
College of Physicians and Surgeons, the response I got from them was that I was
not telling the truth (or could have been that they knew I was telling the
truth but that one does not say things like that about doctors from foreign
countries, even though they had been shirking their duty and allowing incorrect
information to pass by them, affecting the way I would be treated at the next
step.
No one commenting or responding to comments on the news article
comments Section online knew or spoke of what the actual tweets were, from
Trump, and yet most seemed to have already made their minds up and for the most
part were against Trump. Quite a few were against me. Are we not allowed to
speak truths against people from other cultures, and are we not allowed to
mention their colour when relevant, as a means of identifying who they are? I
have been stopped midsentence while speaking to someone at the hospital who supposedly
had some knowledge of ethics, but I didn’t get a sense that he had much. Just
say the person was black and one gets accused of racism, just as a black person
accusing a white person of racism would get the undivided attention of people
like Trudeau, and probably a lot more at the local hospital.
The CBC has been called too politically-correct by some
readers, but I don’t know what it is about them, and the moderators who look after
the Comments Sections of various news articles. But quite a few of my comments
were getting moderated and then deleted. How could this be, when so many people
say such terrible things about someone who is President of the United States?
How is it they are allowed to be so disrespectful towards him, and so
intolerant and not believing he may have had a reason to say the things he
said. He was judged by people who didn’t have the full story. And I was being
judged also, by CBC, and by the CPSO, and probably by the LHSC, to whom I have
also submitted a complaint.
In 3 separate but connected tweets on July 14, Trump wrote the following:
So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat
Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a
complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in
the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly......
5:27 AM – 14 Jul 2019
....and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest
and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t
they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from
which they came. Then come back and show us how....
....it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast
enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free
travel arrangements!
No doubt that the tweets were harsh.
But were they racist?
I saved copies of comments made by
individuals in the Comments Section of the article about the EU Council
President and PM Trudeau, which I shall refer to below without naming them but including
them anonymously, and deleting any words or ideas that might betray their
identity. Although they are written for
a public forum, the usual practice is for them to be deleted or stored so practically inaccessible from the page the article is on, or anywhere. Mine will have my
name on them.
H
Reply to W
She is allowed to
speak her mind. Called democracy.
Sue McPherson CONTENT
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Reply to H:
Trump didn't say, Send her back, or Send them back. He said if they didn't like America they could always go back where they came from /Now this EU guy Tusk is saying Yup, that's what Trump said - Send her back. these distortions of truth have to stop.
Trump didn't say, Send her back, or Send them back. He said if they didn't like America they could always go back where they came from /Now this EU guy Tusk is saying Yup, that's what Trump said - Send her back. these distortions of truth have to stop.
Sue McPherson
Now Trump is getting known for apparently saying "Send them
back" when what he said was, if the black members of his cabinet did not
like America, they can always go back home. This distortion of truth is being
carried on into tv and and even this news article by the CBC, as though it is
truth.
Canadians aren't really such great people, and Donald Tusk doesn't know that, although it has nothing to do with suggesting that if people don't like it here they can always go back to where they and their ancestors came from. I don't know why he would even raise that issue here in Canada. He has no idea what goes on here.
Canadians aren't really such great people, and Donald Tusk doesn't know that, although it has nothing to do with suggesting that if people don't like it here they can always go back to where they and their ancestors came from. I don't know why he would even raise that issue here in Canada. He has no idea what goes on here.
L
Reply to Sue McPherson:
he said they're from "broken, crime infested
countries" and they should go back there. Was he talking about their homes
in America?
(He was absolutely NOT talking about members of his own cabinet!!!)
(He was absolutely NOT talking about members of his own cabinet!!!)
Sue McPherson 35 minutes ago AWAITING
MODERATION
Reply to L:
He said that if they didn't like America they could always go back to their broken crime-infested countries and fix them.
What was the racist part of what he said? Was it because he called their poverty-ridden countries broken, or crime-infested? Or was it because he suggested they could go back if they didn't like it here. that's not the same as saying Send them back! Send them bacK!
Do you think Trymp is racist, or that his remarks were? Explain your position.
He said that if they didn't like America they could always go back to their broken crime-infested countries and fix them.
What was the racist part of what he said? Was it because he called their poverty-ridden countries broken, or crime-infested? Or was it because he suggested they could go back if they didn't like it here. that's not the same as saying Send them back! Send them bacK!
Do you think Trymp is racist, or that his remarks were? Explain your position.
H Reply to Sue McPherson: Are you
Canadian? If not, please be quiet. If so, please explain "what goes on
here".
Sue McPherson CONTENT
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Reply to H:
I live in London, Ontario, We are inundated with doctors from Africa and India, in which contagious diseases are rampant, and they're not being checked thoroughly on the way in for TB or other related diseases. Maybe the US doesn't have that problem, It's something Trump doesn't mention, re asylum seekers from the south.
I run into people too, at the hospital - doctors - who seem to have the same attitude that these 4 women from the Trumps cabinet have. They are given so much that they seem to develop a kind of arrogance about their position, wanting more.
I see people - white women, and Canadians, supporting those poor harassed members of cabinet - the equivalent of Christina Freeland whose buddy Trudeau got her a job in foreign affairs. she loves dealing with poor, oppresses, rich girls from abroad, not so much with the ebola crisis or anything that goes on here.
I am fed up with foreigners from abroad - usually wealthy - being treated with more respect than people here and bringing their cultural values with them, of attitudes towards older, unmarried females in Canada. And then we read the distortions of Trump's words, from what he said to "Send them back" which were not his words.
I have put in a complaint to the CPSO about 2 microbiologists at LHSC, which they seem very reluctant to deal with. I have also sent a compliant about D------ and C---------- to LHSC. How they can allow these people to continue when they have made these errors and not do anything about correcting them, and how the respirologist I had could simply refuse (also from a different cultural background) I do not know. What I do know is no one is analyzing what these 4 women have been critical of, in America. It is all blamed on Trump.
I live in London, Ontario, We are inundated with doctors from Africa and India, in which contagious diseases are rampant, and they're not being checked thoroughly on the way in for TB or other related diseases. Maybe the US doesn't have that problem, It's something Trump doesn't mention, re asylum seekers from the south.
I run into people too, at the hospital - doctors - who seem to have the same attitude that these 4 women from the Trumps cabinet have. They are given so much that they seem to develop a kind of arrogance about their position, wanting more.
I see people - white women, and Canadians, supporting those poor harassed members of cabinet - the equivalent of Christina Freeland whose buddy Trudeau got her a job in foreign affairs. she loves dealing with poor, oppresses, rich girls from abroad, not so much with the ebola crisis or anything that goes on here.
I am fed up with foreigners from abroad - usually wealthy - being treated with more respect than people here and bringing their cultural values with them, of attitudes towards older, unmarried females in Canada. And then we read the distortions of Trump's words, from what he said to "Send them back" which were not his words.
I have put in a complaint to the CPSO about 2 microbiologists at LHSC, which they seem very reluctant to deal with. I have also sent a compliant about D------ and C---------- to LHSC. How they can allow these people to continue when they have made these errors and not do anything about correcting them, and how the respirologist I had could simply refuse (also from a different cultural background) I do not know. What I do know is no one is analyzing what these 4 women have been critical of, in America. It is all blamed on Trump.
M
Reply to Sue McPherson: You should go back and
visit exactly what trump said. You are completely off-base. BTW, please explain
"what goes on" here? You don't sound very patriotic of loyal.
Sue McPherson
Reply to M
I have just finished explaining to H but well you know what. my comment is not there.
I have just finished explaining to H but well you know what. my comment is not there.
Sue McPherson
Reply to H:
My response to you was not published. I have had problems with the health care system here, see my blog sue's views on the news. They are treated me very badly, trying to silence me. Canada - London - is not a nice place.
My response to you was not published. I have had problems with the health care system here, see my blog sue's views on the news. They are treated me very badly, trying to silence me. Canada - London - is not a nice place.
Sue McPherson CONTENT
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Reply to H
I live in London, Ontario, We are inundated with doctors from Africa and India, in which contagious diseases are rampant, and they're not being checked thoroughly on the way in for TB or other related diseases. This is fact - see your public health unit for more info. Maybe the US doesn't have that problem, It's something Trump doesn't mention, re asylum seekers from the south.
I run into people too, at the hospital – doctors – who seem to have the same attitude that these 4 women from the Trumps cabinet have. They are given so much that they seem to develop a kind of arrogance about their position, wanting more.
I see people – white women, and Canadians, supporting those poor harassed members of cabinet – the equivalent of Christina Freeland whose buddy Trudeau got her a job in foreign affairs.
I am concerned about these foreigners from abroad – usually wealthy – being treated with more respect than people here and bringing their cultural values with them, of attitudes towards older, unmarried females in Canada. And then we read the distortions of Trump's words, from what he said to “Send them back” which were not his words. I like foreign people, but not these.
I have put in a complaint to the CPSO about 2 microbiologists at LHSC, which they seem very reluctant to deal with. I have also sent a compliant about D-----t and C---------i to LHSC. How can they allow these people to continue when they have made these errors and not do anything about correcting them, the respirologist too (also from a different cultural background). No one is analyzing what these 4 women have been critical of, in America. It is all blamed on Trump.
I live in London, Ontario, We are inundated with doctors from Africa and India, in which contagious diseases are rampant, and they're not being checked thoroughly on the way in for TB or other related diseases. This is fact - see your public health unit for more info. Maybe the US doesn't have that problem, It's something Trump doesn't mention, re asylum seekers from the south.
I run into people too, at the hospital – doctors – who seem to have the same attitude that these 4 women from the Trumps cabinet have. They are given so much that they seem to develop a kind of arrogance about their position, wanting more.
I see people – white women, and Canadians, supporting those poor harassed members of cabinet – the equivalent of Christina Freeland whose buddy Trudeau got her a job in foreign affairs.
I am concerned about these foreigners from abroad – usually wealthy – being treated with more respect than people here and bringing their cultural values with them, of attitudes towards older, unmarried females in Canada. And then we read the distortions of Trump's words, from what he said to “Send them back” which were not his words. I like foreign people, but not these.
I have put in a complaint to the CPSO about 2 microbiologists at LHSC, which they seem very reluctant to deal with. I have also sent a compliant about D-----t and C---------i to LHSC. How can they allow these people to continue when they have made these errors and not do anything about correcting them, the respirologist too (also from a different cultural background). No one is analyzing what these 4 women have been critical of, in America. It is all blamed on Trump.
G
Reply to Sue McPherson:
Yes I remember your many complaints about the way
you were treated, your escape to England, and despise for men.
Sue McPherson
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Reply to G
So, another one, You get to speak untruths and distortions, and my truth - my voice - is silenced, even here on CBC my posts are disabled. I was harassed then and I am now. but I know now that I was not to blame. I wrote a piece about a prof who behaved in sexualized ways in the classroom, in order to understand it. It is now published online Maybe that was part of it. He probably got used to women performing for him and doing as he pleased.
So, another one, You get to speak untruths and distortions, and my truth - my voice - is silenced, even here on CBC my posts are disabled. I was harassed then and I am now. but I know now that I was not to blame. I wrote a piece about a prof who behaved in sexualized ways in the classroom, in order to understand it. It is now published online Maybe that was part of it. He probably got used to women performing for him and doing as he pleased.
T
Reply to Sue McPherson:
Total BS. The meaning of the words in the tweets
sre clear and anyone can plainly see that Trump was enjoying the chant while at
his rally.
Sue McPherson
Reply to T:
I'm glad you think what Trump said originally was clear. Please post them. I am doing all the talking here despite most of my comments not getting p[ublished. Perhaps I will place them on my blog. How would that be,.
I'm glad you think what Trump said originally was clear. Please post them. I am doing all the talking here despite most of my comments not getting p[ublished. Perhaps I will place them on my blog. How would that be,.
Sue McPherson CONTENT
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Reply to L
last comment disabled, See my blog sue's views on the news.
for now, please say, Didn't Trump say,.
If the girls don't like living in Mercia they can always leave or should leave or can leave. That's not racist. It's a bit nasty but no nastier than these moderators disabling my comments.
!!@Q!@@
last comment disabled, See my blog sue's views on the news.
for now, please say, Didn't Trump say,.
If the girls don't like living in Mercia they can always leave or should leave or can leave. That's not racist. It's a bit nasty but no nastier than these moderators disabling my comments.
!!@Q!@@
H
Reply to @Sue
McPherson:
One would have to have a recording, but you're right, even if one does he is not all that articulate to be positive about it. LOL
One would have to have a recording, but you're right, even if one does he is not all that articulate to be positive about it. LOL
Sue McPherson
Reply to H
Saying, if you don't like it here why don't you leave is a phrase that foreign people like to promote as a sign of racism, just as they keep saying that people don't like the colour of their skin. It's not the colour that matters, but it is an indication that they may have cultural values different from ours, and as I have learned, being a white, older, woman lacking wealth, spouse and family nearby, it is an opportunity for them to try to take advantage of me. I am fighting that, but without support, it is difficult. See my blog Sue's Views on the News, I shall try to post more.
Saying, if you don't like it here why don't you leave is a phrase that foreign people like to promote as a sign of racism, just as they keep saying that people don't like the colour of their skin. It's not the colour that matters, but it is an indication that they may have cultural values different from ours, and as I have learned, being a white, older, woman lacking wealth, spouse and family nearby, it is an opportunity for them to try to take advantage of me. I am fighting that, but without support, it is difficult. See my blog Sue's Views on the News, I shall try to post more.
J
Reply to @Sue McPherson:
Trump insists he tried to quiet the chants ... by
remaining completely silent and basking in the hateful chorus. His tweets were
even worse.
Sue McPherson
Reply to J
Yes, a lot of people in this city have done that to me, too - keeping quiet while my life is being destroyed. In this case, Trump was picked on first, by the media, as usual, after the original tweet. It is not nice to say that to children of immigrants, but it doesn't mean he is a racist for saying that. And the question remains, why don't we get to hear what the women were saying about America?
Yes, a lot of people in this city have done that to me, too - keeping quiet while my life is being destroyed. In this case, Trump was picked on first, by the media, as usual, after the original tweet. It is not nice to say that to children of immigrants, but it doesn't mean he is a racist for saying that. And the question remains, why don't we get to hear what the women were saying about America?
END of comments I am not pleased to see my comments deleted,
when I put effort into them. In the end, they will be deleted, whether after a
month or a year, but it is not as though any of us was privileged journalists
who get to write not such great articles sometimes but still get something for doing
it. I have unknown persona judging my comments and deleting them at will. At
the CPSO and HRTO I often have unknown administration clerks judging the worth
of my complaints and deeming them admissable, or not. As for the LHSC, there
are very few people there I have respect for any more.
Placing this near the end, for your convenience, readers:
Donald
Trump’s tweets July 14, 2019
So interesting to
see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries
whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt
and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at
all), now loudly......
5:27 AM – 14 Jul 2019
....and viciously telling the people of
the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our
government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken
and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us
how....
....it is done. These places need your
help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be
very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!
References
EU president takes shot at Trump's 'unacceptable' tweets
after Trudeau meeting.
by John Paul Tasker
CBC News. July 18, 2019
Donald Trump’s tweets
@DonaldTrump
The real Donald Trump Twitter account
July 14, 2019
